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	<title>Comments on: Smackdown: Pastoral vs Pugilistic Presbyters</title>
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		<title>By: adamjcopeland</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 13:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hear you, Stushie.  It&#039;s just that it&#039;s pretty difficult to figure out who&#039;s debating what when there are 5 amendments on the table at the same time, and everyone is speaking in favor and against all of them, plus some towards the main motion.

My broader point was regarding the discipline, but I certainly agree that Robert&#039;s Rules can be used in inappropriate and unhelpful ways.  In this case, however, I think they would have provided a helpful structure and saved many from walking out in frustration.

Thanks for the comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear you, Stushie.  It&#8217;s just that it&#8217;s pretty difficult to figure out who&#8217;s debating what when there are 5 amendments on the table at the same time, and everyone is speaking in favor and against all of them, plus some towards the main motion.</p>
<p>My broader point was regarding the discipline, but I certainly agree that Robert&#8217;s Rules can be used in inappropriate and unhelpful ways.  In this case, however, I think they would have provided a helpful structure and saved many from walking out in frustration.</p>
<p>Thanks for the comment.</p>
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		<title>By: stushie</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 04:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I spent nine years with Ayr presbytery, so I know what you mean Adam. But I don&#039;t care for the PCUSA system either. Robert&#039;s Rules of order take all of the passion out of debates and make everything so clinical. Sometimes we are called to overturn tables, Adam, even on the floor of Presbytery!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I spent nine years with Ayr presbytery, so I know what you mean Adam. But I don&#8217;t care for the PCUSA system either. Robert&#8217;s Rules of order take all of the passion out of debates and make everything so clinical. Sometimes we are called to overturn tables, Adam, even on the floor of Presbytery!</p>
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