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	<title>Comments on: Two Quick Movie Recommendations</title>
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		<title>By: adamjcopeland</title>
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		<dc:creator>adamjcopeland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 21:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your comments, John.  I hear your criticism and, certainly, I’m no expert on 70s California anything.  “Naivete” was probably a poor choice of words.

  I was specifically thinking of a scene where Milk speaks of the relative ease of coming out in the wake of some failed CA anti-gay legislation.

Still, though, what really struck me with the film is how much would be different were it set 10/15 years later (I know it&#039;s a bio-pic, but you can get my drift).

Re your gay culture quip, I’m not sure I’d call myself knowledgeable about mid-twenties white straight southern grad student culture -- that’d be my life -- let alone any other.  It seems to me that’s the challenge of our society today.  It’s very difficult to make general statements because they are so many exceptions, and we now know how important it is to consider the exceptions.  Perhaps I should have written more carefully, or perhaps the gay culture I’m familiar with is just different than what you’re considering.

Last weekend I stayed with good friends of mine, a partnered lesbian couple.  One of them noted herself how unassuming and uncontroversial their lives are.  They said they live what anybody else would call boring uneventful lives.  They wondered what other folks thought their lifestyle was supposed to be, because in actuality, it’s as white toast and vanilla ice cream as anybody’s in their neighborhood.

So yeah, good questions that get at broader challenges in describing the lives we live today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comments, John.  I hear your criticism and, certainly, I’m no expert on 70s California anything.  “Naivete” was probably a poor choice of words.</p>
<p>  I was specifically thinking of a scene where Milk speaks of the relative ease of coming out in the wake of some failed CA anti-gay legislation.</p>
<p>Still, though, what really struck me with the film is how much would be different were it set 10/15 years later (I know it&#8217;s a bio-pic, but you can get my drift).</p>
<p>Re your gay culture quip, I’m not sure I’d call myself knowledgeable about mid-twenties white straight southern grad student culture &#8212; that’d be my life &#8212; let alone any other.  It seems to me that’s the challenge of our society today.  It’s very difficult to make general statements because they are so many exceptions, and we now know how important it is to consider the exceptions.  Perhaps I should have written more carefully, or perhaps the gay culture I’m familiar with is just different than what you’re considering.</p>
<p>Last weekend I stayed with good friends of mine, a partnered lesbian couple.  One of them noted herself how unassuming and uncontroversial their lives are.  They said they live what anybody else would call boring uneventful lives.  They wondered what other folks thought their lifestyle was supposed to be, because in actuality, it’s as white toast and vanilla ice cream as anybody’s in their neighborhood.</p>
<p>So yeah, good questions that get at broader challenges in describing the lives we live today.</p>
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		<title>By: John McNeese</title>
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		<dc:creator>John McNeese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 05:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found your comments about “portraying the free and fun attitude of 1970s San Fran gay culture without being ostentatious or overbearing” and “this could only have happened before AIDS” and marveled at the openness –and sometimes naiveté– of the 70s gay movement” irritating. The Stonewall riots set off the gay rights movement in 1969. Milk was an important figure on this journey. Naiveté? AIDS was the result of our being open? Gay culture being ostentatious or overbearing?  I don’t know what you’re talking about.  I doubt you even know what gay culture is.

John McNeese</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found your comments about “portraying the free and fun attitude of 1970s San Fran gay culture without being ostentatious or overbearing” and “this could only have happened before AIDS” and marveled at the openness –and sometimes naiveté– of the 70s gay movement” irritating. The Stonewall riots set off the gay rights movement in 1969. Milk was an important figure on this journey. Naiveté? AIDS was the result of our being open? Gay culture being ostentatious or overbearing?  I don’t know what you’re talking about.  I doubt you even know what gay culture is.</p>
<p>John McNeese</p>
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		<title>By: joan calvin</title>
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		<dc:creator>joan calvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 13:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the 70s: In watching the movie, I remembered how much more open the 70s were than the present time. The Christian right was only beginning to be publicly involved in politics and was mostly looked down on. I was surprised to see both Reagan and Carter opposing Prop 6 (was it 6?). I think I remember when Milk and Mascone were assassinated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the 70s: In watching the movie, I remembered how much more open the 70s were than the present time. The Christian right was only beginning to be publicly involved in politics and was mostly looked down on. I was surprised to see both Reagan and Carter opposing Prop 6 (was it 6?). I think I remember when Milk and Mascone were assassinated.</p>
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